[squid-users] quiet week

Peter Viskup skupko.sk at gmail.com
Mon Jun 4 09:55:36 UTC 2018

There are significant differences between the Fedora->RHEL and
Debian->Ubuntu relations.
Fedora is development oriented with short lifecycle and without support of
previous versions. RHEL is built on Fedora with stability and enterprise
needs in mind (they always ).

Debian provides more release stages
 - stable -> Ubuntu TLS releases
 - testing -> standard Ubuntu releases
 - unstable

Ubuntu LTS releases are based on current Debian stable release. Standard
Ubuntu relases are based on Debian testing. Both developer communities
share parts of infra and are working "together".
More information can be read here https://www.ubuntu.com/community/debian

This is major difference.

The RHEL->CentOS relation is of different type. CentOS is RHEL without
copyrighted materials. Updates are usually released with delays. There are
some other repositories which extend/modify CentOS core


On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 10:38 AM, Amos Jeffries <squid3 at treenet.co.nz> wrote:

> On 04/06/18 19:51, Eliezer Croitoru wrote:
> >
> > Amos, am I right about the roadmap of Squid-Cache to be much closer to
> Debian and Ubuntu compared to CentOS?
> >
> Debian is a "seed" type of distribution, like Fedora, Arch, Slack,
> Gentoo, Mageus, and some others not packaging Squid (Desktop or IoT
> focus, etc). They get their code directly from projects/communities like
> us. Most distributions tend to be based on one of those seeds with only
> a change to what they focus on.
> CentOS is a third-level derivative from Fedora (Fedora->RHEL->CentOS),
> whereas Ubuntu is a second-level derivative of Debian (Debian->Ubuntu).
> That is probably where you are seeing the difference between CentOS
> (waiting for RHEL stability, which itself only starts after Fedora
> stability first) vs Ubuntu (waiting only for Debian stability).
> I am trying to make the Squid stable releases have a regular cadence
> that suits the seeder OS release timetables where possible (Jan or
> July). So that the derivatives which wait for packages to get stable in
> the seeder first are not left stuck for decades with outdated Squid
> versions. That is still subject to bugs and what feature have been
> committed though. So as yet the "regular" part does not quite exist and
> we get delays like v4 with difficult bugs.
> Amos
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