[squid-users] caching videos over https?

Sun Nov 20 11:54:01 UTC 2016

you are correct .

but video cache solution was very very simple when compared to the store id .
also it support couple of websites without  that much effort .

what i mean here is the simplicity …..im not in the development level … i talk about the normal squid users .

cheers 

> On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:47 PM, Yuri Voinov <yvoinov at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> And no need to invent anything. Everything has already been invented.
> And it is called the invention Store-ID.
> 
> You take it and write on the basis of all that is needed. I do not see
> any problem.
> 
> 20.11.2016 17:45, --Ahmad-- пишет:
>> hey guys .
>> 
>> as long as the video cache has been opened now  and in past  proved its strength with http other websites for video .
>> 
>> ((lets put youtube away now .))
>> 
>> 
>> why don’t we see development on it to support  the video contents of websites that support http  like daily motion and its sisters websites .
>> 
>> 
>> and why don’t we use certificates once development for youtube & Facebook ???
>> 
>> 
>> i saw the development of eleizer of caching windows updates and it was great solution ….. why don’t we combine those 2 solution in 1 product ?
>> 
>> 
>> i  think that continuing on the solution of video cache is better than inventing solution from scratch .
>> 
>> thanks again squid users Guys 
>> 
>>> On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:10 AM, Eliezer Croitoru <eliezer at ngtech.co.il> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The cachevideos solution is not a fake but as Amos mentioned it might not have been updated\upgraded to match today state of YouTube and google videos.
>>> I do not know a thing about this product but they offer a trial period and they have a forums which can be used to get more details.
>>> I believe they still have something really good in their solution since it's not based on StoreID but on other concepts.
>>> 
>>> Eliezer
>>> 
>>> ----
>>> Eliezer Croitoru
>>> Linux System Administrator
>>> Mobile: +972-5-28704261
>>> Email: eliezer at ngtech.co.il
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Yuri Voinov [mailto:yvoinov at gmail.com] 
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 00:18
>>> To: Eliezer Croitoru <eliezer at ngtech.co.il>; squid-users at lists.squid-cache.org
>>> Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 20.11.2016 3:59, Eliezer Croitoru пишет:
>>>> Yuri,
>>>> 
>>>> I am not the most experienced in life and in security but I can say it's possible and I am not selling it....
>>>> I released the windows update cacher which works in enough places(just by seeing how many downloaded it..).
>>>> The first rule I have learned from my mentors is that even if you know something it might not fit to be in a form that the general public should know about.
>>>> I am looking for a link to CVE related publication rules of thumb so I would be able to understand better what should be published and how.
>>>> Any redirections are welcomed..
>>>> 
>>>> A note:
>>>> If you have the plain html of a json which contains the next links you would be able to predict couple things...
>>> I know what are you talking about. I came to this idea two years ago.
>>> Unfortunately, I had more important priorities.
>>> But I'm not seen open source solutions uses real YT internals yet and really works.
>>> 
>>> Now I'm working on another squid's thing, but plan to return to YT store-ID helper later.
>>> 
>>> However, it is only the fact that the "solutions" that are in the public domain, or obsolete, or are worthless.
>>> 
>>> And for some more money and asking. I would understand if they really worked. Unfortunately, Google does not idiots work.
>>> 
>>> That's why I said that the development of the Indian - fake.
>>>> If you would be able to catch every single fedora\redhat sqlite db file and replace it with a malicious sha256 data you would be able to hack each of their clients machine when they will be updated.
>>>> If you believe you can coordinate such a thing you are way above StoreID level of understanding networking and Computer Science.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Eliezer
>>>> 
>>>> ----
>>>> Eliezer Croitoru
>>>> Linux System Administrator
>>>> Mobile: +972-5-28704261
>>>> Email: eliezer at ngtech.co.il
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Yuri Voinov [mailto:yvoinov at gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 23:08
>>>> To: Eliezer Croitoru <eliezer at ngtech.co.il>; 
>>>> squid-users at lists.squid-cache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?
>>>> 
>>>> I do not want to waste my and your time and discuss this issue. I know what I know, I have seriously studied this issue. None of those who are really able to cache Youtube - not only on desktops but also on mobile devices - all without exception - is no solution in the form of open source or blob will not offer free. This is big money. As for Google, and for those who use it. Therefore, I suggest better acquainted with the way Youtube counteracts caching and close useless discussion.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not going to shake the air and talk about what I do not and can not be. If you have a solution - really works, and for absolutely any type of client (Android and iPhone) - show evidence or let's stop blah-blah-blah. I mean, if you really were a solution - you'd sold it for money. But you do not have it, isn't it?
>>>> 
>>>> Personally, I do not want anything. This is not the solution I'm looking for. 
>>>> 
>>>> For myself, I found a workaround; what I know - I have stated in the wiki. If someone else wants to spend a year or two for new investigations - welcome.
>>>> 
>>>> 20.11.2016 2:45, Eliezer Croitoru пишет:
>>>>> Yuri,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Let say I can cache youtube videos, what would I get for this?
>>>>> I mean, what would anyone get from this?
>>>>> Let say I will give you a blob that will work, will you try it? Or 
>>>>> would you want only an open source solution?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Eliezer
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----
>>>>> Eliezer Croitoru <http://ngtech.co.il/lmgtfy/> Linux System 
>>>>> Administrator
>>>>> Mobile: +972-5-28704261
>>>>> Email: eliezer at ngtech.co.il
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: squid-users [mailto:squid-users-bounces at lists.squid-cache.org]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Yuri Voinov
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 17:54
>>>>> To: squid-users at lists.squid-cache.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?
>>>>> 
>>>>> HTTPS is not a problem, if not a problem to install the proxy 
>>>>> certificate to the clients.
>>>>> The problem in combating caching YT by Google.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 19.11.2016 21:41, Yuri Voinov пишет:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 19.11.2016 21:35, Amos Jeffries пишет:
>>>>> 19.11.2016 20:56, Bakhtiyor Homidov пишет:
>>>>> thanks, yuri,
>>>>> 
>>>>> just found https://cachevideos.com/, what do you think about this?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 20/11/2016 4:17 a.m., Yuri Voinov wrote:
>>>>> This is fake.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Only for strange definitions of "fake".
>>>>> 
>>>>> It is simply an old helper from before YouTube became all-HTTPS. It 
>>>>> should still work okay for any of the video sites that are still 
>>>>> using HTTP.
>>>>> YT uses cache-preventing scheme for videos relatively long time 
>>>>> (after they finished use Flash videos). So, no one - excluding Google 
>>>>> itself
>>>>> - can cache it now. Especially for mobile devices. I've spent last 
>>>>> two years to learn this. So, anyone who talk he can cache YT is lies.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As I explain here why:
>>>>> http://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples/DynamicContent/YouTube/Dis
>>>>> c
>>>>> ussion
>>>>> 
>>>>> All another videos - well, this is a bit difficult - but possible to cache.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you look at the features list it clearly says:
>>>>> "No support for HTTPS (secure HTTP) caching."
>>>>> HTTPS itself in most cases can't be easy cached by vanilla squid.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Amos
>>>>> 
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