[squid-users] Youtube "challenges"

Darren darren.j.breeze.ml at gmail.com
Thu Feb 25 03:52:42 UTC 2016


Hi All

Thanks for the feedback and thanks Eliezer for the Brain Dump on the subject. I shall have a good dig through and see if I can gain further inspiration.

What I am chiseling away at now is the following idea.

The user visits a page on my server with the YouTube links. Visiting this page triggers a state based ACL (something like the captive portal login). 

The user then clicks a YouTube link and squid checks this ACL to see if the user is originating the request from my local page and if it is, allows the splice to YouTube and the video can play.

The ACL would need to be tied to the client and the browser session some way.

Once the user leaves the page, the ACL goes away (or expires) and splicing to YouTube is blocked again.

As I control the master page, I could have it send a heartbeat to the local server to keep the splice to YouTube ACL active to allow setting a shorter timeout to remove the ACL permission once the user moves on.

thanks again to all, I will let you know if I crack this nut.

Darren Breeze

















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On 25/02/2016 10:33:48 AM, Eliezer Croitoru <eliezer at ngtech.co.il> wrote:
Hey Steve,

I have not reviewed every product but I have tried couple and these I
have tested do not have a really good system that filters YouTube videos
the way I would have imagined.
I have not tested your product... and I was wondering if the next URL
will be filtered by you software in some way?

https://www.youtubeeducation.com/embed/KdS6HFQ_LUc


I have seen couple pretty really amazing filtering ideas but each has
it's own limits. For example it is possible to analyze every in-transit
image and video+audio and categorize them which actually is a great
solution for many but the Achilles heel is there always.
Some filters has higher false positive rates while others has less but
leaves the user in abyss after reading a weird faked ransom malware JS page.

I am not sure if Darren requires a very restrictive environment or not,
which will result in the use of something like url based filtering or a
local portal.

If there is a requirement for a local playback of YouTube videos rather
then a filtering solution I would try a simpler solution.
An example to such would be a local hosting service with some kind of
simple html5 or flash based player. It's far more simple then doing all
sort of weird things with YouTube links as embed inside an iframe.

I have seen examples of couple projects that gives a full local video
library platform which is far better then YouTube for many use cases but
I have never used any of these. I have worked with couple html5 and
flash based video players and it actually pretty simple to use them with
any normal browser.

I cannot really recommend my simple videos collection
page[http://ngtech.co.il/squid/videos/] as a tempting and a good looking
example but it can give something to anyone that needs.

Eliezer

* Darren, Take a glimpse at these ideas:
- http://blog.plumi.org/
- http://cumulusclips.org/
- http://mediadrop.net/
- http://demo.softaculous.com/enduser/index.php?act=software&soft=435
- http://www.netup.tv/en-EN/open_source.php
- http://www.cubiware.com/cubitv-iptv-middleware/


On 24/02/2016 11:59, Steve Hill wrote:
> On 23/02/16 05:01, Darren wrote:
>
>> AI am putting together a config to allow the kids to access selected
>> videos in YouTube from a page of links on a local server.
>>
>> I am serving up the YouTube links in the
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