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<p>Hi,</p>
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<p>Its not disk cache, its <font size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt">due to in memory SSL context.</span></font></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 3, 2017 11:55 AM<br>
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<p>How big disk cache(s) and how it full?<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">03.05.2017 17:54, Nil Nik пишет:<br>
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Hi,
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<p><font size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt">NO_DEFAULT_CA</span></font> <span>
doesn't</span> help. Still goes in GB. Can anyone tell me area so that i can work on?</p>
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<p>Regards,</p>
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<div class="PlainText">On 04/26/2017 09:35 AM, Yuri Voinov wrote:<br>
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> This is openssl issue or squid's?<br>
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AFAIK, the underlying issue (i.e., bug #4005) is mostly a Squid problem:<br>
Squid is caching SSL contexts (instead of certificates) and does a poor<br>
job maintaining that cache.<br>
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Earlier OpenSSL versions (that had to be used when the original code was<br>
written) complicated solving this problem. OpenSSL v1.0.1+ added APIs<br>
that simplify some aspects of the anticipated fix. Certain OpenSSL<br>
aspects will continue to hurt Squid, even with OpenSSL v1.0.1, but if<br>
you want to blame a single project (instead of both), blame Squid.<br>
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> Why sessions can't share CA's data cached in memory? shared_ptr invented<br>
> already.<br>
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OpenSSL knew how to share things well before std::shared_ptr became<br>
available. However, it is the responsibility of the application to tell<br>
OpenSSL what to create from scratch and what to share. A part of the<br>
problem is that Squid tells OpenSSL to create many large things from<br>
scratch and then caches those large things while underestimating their<br>
size by several(?) orders of magnitude (and probably also missing many<br>
cache hits).<br>
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More details, including the difference between problems associated with<br>
from-client and to-server connections, are documented in the "Memory<br>
Usage" section of <a href="http://wiki.squid-cache.org/Features/SslBump" id="LPlnk706809" previewremoved="true">
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FWIW, we have spent a lot of resources on triaging this problem and<br>
drafting possible solutions (in various overlapping areas), but there is<br>
currently no sponsor to finalize and implement any of the fixes. AFAIK,<br>
bug #4005 is stuck.<br>
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I am glad that NO_DEFAULT_CA helps mitigate some of the problems in some<br>
environments.<br>
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HTH,<br>
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Alex.<br>
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> 26.04.2017 9:08, Amos Jeffries пишет:<br>
>> On 26/04/17 10:53, Yuri Voinov wrote:<br>
>>> Ok, but how NO_DEFAULT_CA should help with this?<br>
>><br>
>> It prevents OpenSSL copying that 1MB into each incoming client<br>
>> connections memory. The CAs are only useful there when you have some<br>
>> of the global CAs as root for client certificates - in which case you<br>
>> still only want to trust the roots you paid for service and not all of<br>
>> them.<br>
>><br>
>> Just something to try if there are huge memory issues with TLS/SSL<br>
>> proxying. The default behaviour is fixed for Squid-4 with the config<br>
>> options changes. But due to being a major surprise for anyone already<br>
>> relying on global roots for client certs it remains a problem in 3.5.<br>
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>> Amos<br>
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