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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>They have 30 days of trial….<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Try and see how it works for you.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I believe that it might work for many of the listed sites.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>If it is being maintained weekly then it would work for other sites also.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Eliezer<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold",sans-serif'>----<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial Rounded MT Bold",sans-serif'><a href="http://ngtech.co.il/lmgtfy/"><span style='color:#0563C1'>Eliezer Croitoru</span></a><br>Linux System Administrator<br>Mobile: +972-5-28704261<br>Email: eliezer@ngtech.co.il<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><img border=0 width=183 height=69 style='width:1.9062in;height:.7187in' id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image002.png@01D243F2.DE6010B0"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> squid-users [mailto:squid-users-bounces@lists.squid-cache.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bakhtiyor Homidov<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 21, 2016 10:09<br><b>To:</b> --Ahmad-- <ahmed.zaeem@netstream.ps><br><b>Cc:</b> Squid Users <squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><a href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/squidvideosbooster/">https://sourceforge.net/projects/squidvideosbooster/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>what do you guys think about this? is it the same with <a href="https://cachevideos.com/">https://cachevideos.com/</a>?<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>thanks<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 5:14 PM, --Ahmad-- <<a href="mailto:ahmed.zaeem@netstream.ps" target="_blank">ahmed.zaeem@netstream.ps</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>thanks yuri you have been great guy and still .<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>kind regards <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Nov 20, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Yuri Voinov <<a href="mailto:yvoinov@gmail.com" target="_blank">yvoinov@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p>I'm not about it. <o:p></o:p></p><p>There is a difference between help and passengers. Who want to get a turnkey solution without doing anything.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Personally, I quite simply as help to specify the direction, or to show that anything is possible in principle. The rest I do myself. If I do not - then I buy it.<br><br>At the beginning of the thread I made it - that direction. I think that should be enough, is not it?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>20.11.2016 18:07, --Ahmad-- пишет:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>lol …. i hope you don’t spent much time for helping people here on the mailing list for free .<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>thanks again for your time .<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Nov 20, 2016, at 2:03 PM, Yuri Voinov <<a href="mailto:yvoinov@gmail.com" target="_blank">yvoinov@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Store-ID is not quite cached. This deduplication and this is just what<br>you need for dynamic content, which is the majority of the video. Do not<br>forget about the volume of the video itself.<br><br>As for the cache, you should look at what video has captions under<br>HTTPS. Modern vanilla SQUID can not in most cases its cache that<br>Store-ID with that without it. Because of video HTTP headers and pragmas.<br><br>In any case, the complete solution is too complex for the majority of<br>ordinary users Squid and too costly in terms of effort to give it. These<br>solutions can either buy or write yourself, agree? I see no reason to<br>give free solutions, which spent a lot of time - it is not free.<br><br>20.11.2016 17:54, --Ahmad-- пишет:<br style='font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px'><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>you are correct .<br><br>but video cache solution was very very simple when compared to the store id .<br>also it support couple of websites without that much effort .<br><br>what i mean here is the simplicity …..im not in the development level … i talk about the normal squid users .<br><br>cheers<span class=gmail-m-5319495452973073317apple-converted-space> </span><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:47 PM, Yuri Voinov <<a href="mailto:yvoinov@gmail.com" target="_blank">yvoinov@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>And no need to invent anything. Everything has already been invented.<br>And it is called the invention Store-ID.<br><br>You take it and write on the basis of all that is needed. I do not see<br>any problem.<br><br>20.11.2016 17:45, --Ahmad-- пишет:<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>hey guys .<br><br>as long as the video cache has been opened now and in past proved its strength with http other websites for video .<br><br>((lets put youtube away now .))<br><br><br>why don’t we see development on it to support the video contents of websites that support http like daily motion and its sisters websites .<br><br><br>and why don’t we use certificates once development for youtube & Facebook ???<br><br><br>i saw the development of eleizer of caching windows updates and it was great solution ….. why don’t we combine those 2 solution in 1 product ?<br><br><br>i think that continuing on the solution of video cache is better than inventing solution from scratch .<br><br>thanks again squid users Guys<span class=gmail-m-5319495452973073317apple-converted-space> </span><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:10 AM, Eliezer Croitoru <<a href="mailto:eliezer@ngtech.co.il" target="_blank">eliezer@ngtech.co.il</a>> wrote:<br><br>The cachevideos solution is not a fake but as Amos mentioned it might not have been updated\upgraded to match today state of YouTube and google videos.<br>I do not know a thing about this product but they offer a trial period and they have a forums which can be used to get more details.<br>I believe they still have something really good in their solution since it's not based on StoreID but on other concepts.<br><br>Eliezer<br><br>----<br>Eliezer Croitoru<br>Linux System Administrator<br>Mobile: +972-5-28704261<br>Email: <a href="mailto:eliezer@ngtech.co.il" target="_blank">eliezer@ngtech.co.il</a><br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Yuri Voinov [<a href="mailto:yvoinov@gmail.com" target="_blank">mailto:yvoinov@gmail.com</a>]<span class=gmail-m-5319495452973073317apple-converted-space> </span><br>Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 00:18<br>To: Eliezer Croitoru <<a href="mailto:eliezer@ngtech.co.il" target="_blank">eliezer@ngtech.co.il</a>>; <a href="mailto:squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org" target="_blank">squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?<br><br><br><br>20.11.2016 3:59, Eliezer Croitoru пишет:<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Yuri,<br><br>I am not the most experienced in life and in security but I can say it's possible and I am not selling it....<br>I released the windows update cacher which works in enough places(just by seeing how many downloaded it..).<br>The first rule I have learned from my mentors is that even if you know something it might not fit to be in a form that the general public should know about.<br>I am looking for a link to CVE related publication rules of thumb so I would be able to understand better what should be published and how.<br>Any redirections are welcomed..<br><br>A note:<br>If you have the plain html of a json which contains the next links you would be able to predict couple things...<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I know what are you talking about. I came to this idea two years ago.<br>Unfortunately, I had more important priorities.<br>But I'm not seen open source solutions uses real YT internals yet and really works.<br><br>Now I'm working on another squid's thing, but plan to return to YT store-ID helper later.<br><br>However, it is only the fact that the "solutions" that are in the public domain, or obsolete, or are worthless.<br><br>And for some more money and asking. I would understand if they really worked. Unfortunately, Google does not idiots work.<br><br>That's why I said that the development of the Indian - fake.<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>If you would be able to catch every single fedora\redhat sqlite db file and replace it with a malicious sha256 data you would be able to hack each of their clients machine when they will be updated.<br>If you believe you can coordinate such a thing you are way above StoreID level of understanding networking and Computer Science.<br><br>Cheers,<br>Eliezer<br><br>----<br>Eliezer Croitoru<br>Linux System Administrator<br>Mobile: +972-5-28704261<br>Email: <a href="mailto:eliezer@ngtech.co.il" target="_blank">eliezer@ngtech.co.il</a><br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Yuri Voinov [<a href="mailto:yvoinov@gmail.com" target="_blank">mailto:yvoinov@gmail.com</a>]<br>Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 23:08<br>To: Eliezer Croitoru <<a href="mailto:eliezer@ngtech.co.il" target="_blank">eliezer@ngtech.co.il</a>>;<span class=gmail-m-5319495452973073317apple-converted-space> </span><br><a href="mailto:squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org" target="_blank">squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?<br><br>I do not want to waste my and your time and discuss this issue. I know what I know, I have seriously studied this issue. None of those who are really able to cache Youtube - not only on desktops but also on mobile devices - all without exception - is no solution in the form of open source or blob will not offer free. This is big money. As for Google, and for those who use it. Therefore, I suggest better acquainted with the way Youtube counteracts caching and close useless discussion.<br><br>I'm not going to shake the air and talk about what I do not and can not be. If you have a solution - really works, and for absolutely any type of client (Android and iPhone) - show evidence or let's stop blah-blah-blah. I mean, if you really were a solution - you'd sold it for money. But you do not have it, isn't it?<br><br>Personally, I do not want anything. This is not the solution I'm looking for.<span class=gmail-m-5319495452973073317apple-converted-space> </span><br><br>For myself, I found a workaround; what I know - I have stated in the wiki. If someone else wants to spend a year or two for new investigations - welcome.<br><br>20.11.2016 2:45, Eliezer Croitoru пишет:<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Yuri,<br><br>Let say I can cache youtube videos, what would I get for this?<br>I mean, what would anyone get from this?<br>Let say I will give you a blob that will work, will you try it? Or<span class=gmail-m-5319495452973073317apple-converted-space> </span><br>would you want only an open source solution?<br><br>Eliezer<br><br>----<br>Eliezer Croitoru <a href="http://ngtech.co.il/lmgtfy/" target="_blank"><http://ngtech.co.il/lmgtfy/></a> Linux System<span class=gmail-m-5319495452973073317apple-converted-space> </span><br>Administrator<br>Mobile: +972-5-28704261<br>Email: <a href="mailto:eliezer@ngtech.co.il" target="_blank">eliezer@ngtech.co.il</a><br><br><br>From: squid-users [<a href="mailto:squid-users-bounces@lists.squid-cache.org" target="_blank">mailto:squid-users-bounces@lists.squid-cache.org</a>]<br>On Behalf Of Yuri Voinov<br>Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 17:54<br>To: <a href="mailto:squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org" target="_blank">squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over https?<br><br>HTTPS is not a problem, if not a problem to install the proxy<span class=gmail-m-5319495452973073317apple-converted-space> </span><br>certificate to the clients.<br>The problem in combating caching YT by Google.<br><br>19.11.2016 21:41, Yuri Voinov пишет:<br><br><br>19.11.2016 21:35, Amos Jeffries пишет:<br>19.11.2016 20:56, Bakhtiyor Homidov пишет:<br>thanks, yuri,<br><br>just found <a href="https://cachevideos.com/" target="_blank">https://cachevideos.com/</a>, what do you think about this?<br><br>On 20/11/2016 4:17 a.m., Yuri Voinov wrote:<br>This is fake.<br><br>Only for strange definitions of "fake".<br><br>It is simply an old helper from before YouTube became all-HTTPS. It<span class=gmail-m-5319495452973073317apple-converted-space> </span><br>should still work okay for any of the video sites that are still<span class=gmail-m-5319495452973073317apple-converted-space> </span><br>using HTTP.<br>YT uses cache-preventing scheme for videos relatively long time<span class=gmail-m-5319495452973073317apple-converted-space> </span><br>(after they finished use Flash videos). So, no one - excluding Google<span class=gmail-m-5319495452973073317apple-converted-space> </span><br>itself<br>- can cache it now. Especially for mobile devices. I've spent last<span class=gmail-m-5319495452973073317apple-converted-space> </span><br>two years to learn this. So, anyone who talk he can cache YT is lies.<br><br>As I explain here why:<br><a href="http://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples/DynamicContent/YouTube/Dis" target="_blank">http://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples/DynamicContent/YouTube/Dis</a><br>c<br>ussion<br><br>All another videos - well, this is a bit difficult - but possible to cache.<br><br><br>If you look at the features list it clearly says:<br>"No support for HTTPS (secure HTTP) caching."<br>HTTPS itself in most cases can't be easy cached by vanilla squid.<br><br><br>Amos<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>squid-users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org" target="_blank">squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org</a><br><a href="mailto:squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org" target="_blank"><mailto:squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org></a><br><a href="http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users" target="_blank">http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>--<br>Cats - delicious. You just do not know how to cook them.<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>squid-users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org" target="_blank">squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users" target="_blank">http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>--<span class=gmail-m-5319495452973073317apple-converted-space> </span><br>Cats - delicious. You just do not know how to cook them.<br><0x613DEC46.asc><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><br>--<span class=gmail-m-5319495452973073317apple-converted-space> </span><br>Cats - delicious. You just do not know how to cook them.<br></span><0x613DEC46.asc><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <br>Cats - delicious. You just do not know how to cook them.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><0x613DEC46.asc><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>squid-users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org">squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users" target="_blank">http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>