<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">thanks yuri you have been great guy and still .<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">kind regards </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 20, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Yuri Voinov <<a href="mailto:yvoinov@gmail.com" class="">yvoinov@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" class=""><p class="">I'm not about it. <br class="">
</p><p class="">There is a difference between help and passengers. Who want to
get a turnkey solution without doing anything.</p><p class="">Personally, I quite simply as help to specify the direction, or
to show that anything is possible in principle. The rest I do
myself. If I do not - then I buy it.<br class="">
<br class="">
At the beginning of the thread I made it - that direction. I think
that should be enough, is not it?<br class="">
</p>
<br class="">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">20.11.2016 18:07, --Ahmad-- пишет:<br class="">
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<div class="">lol …. i hope you don’t spent much time for
helping people here on the mailing list for free .</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">thanks again for your time .</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
<div class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class="">On Nov 20, 2016, at 2:03 PM, Yuri Voinov
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:yvoinov@gmail.com" class="">yvoinov@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica;
font-size: 14px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing:
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none;
display: inline !important;" class="">Store-ID is
not quite cached. This deduplication and this is
just what</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica;
font-size: 14px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing:
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px;
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">you need for dynamic content, which is the
majority of the video. Do not</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px;
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px;" class="">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px;
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">forget about the volume of the video
itself.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica;
font-size: 14px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing:
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">
<br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px;
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px;" class="">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px;
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">As for the cache, you should look at what
video has captions under</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px;
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px;" class="">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px;
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">HTTPS. Modern vanilla SQUID can not in most
cases its cache that</span><br style="font-family:
Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing:
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px;
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Store-ID with that without it. Because of
video HTTP headers and pragmas.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px;
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px;" class="">
<br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px;
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px;" class="">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px;
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">In any case, the complete solution is too
complex for the majority of</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px;
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px;" class="">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px;
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">ordinary users Squid and too costly in
terms of effort to give it. These</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px;
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px;" class="">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px;
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">solutions can either buy or write yourself,
agree? I see no reason to</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px;
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px;" class="">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px;
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">give free solutions, which spent a lot of
time - it is not free.</span><br style="font-family:
Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing:
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">
<br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px;
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px;" class="">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px;
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">20.11.2016 17:54, --Ahmad-- пишет:</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px;
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:
auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px;" class="">
<blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica;
font-size: 14px; font-style: normal;
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing:
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">you
are correct .<br class="">
<br class="">
but video cache solution was very very simple when
compared to the store id .<br class="">
also it support couple of websites without that
much effort .<br class="">
<br class="">
what i mean here is the simplicity …..im not in the
development level … i talk about the normal squid
users .<br class="">
<br class="">
cheers<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
<br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">On Nov 20, 2016, at
1:47 PM, Yuri Voinov <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:yvoinov@gmail.com" class="">yvoinov@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br class="">
<br class="">
And no need to invent anything. Everything has
already been invented.<br class="">
And it is called the invention Store-ID.<br class="">
<br class="">
You take it and write on the basis of all that is
needed. I do not see<br class="">
any problem.<br class="">
<br class="">
20.11.2016 17:45, --Ahmad-- пишет:<br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">hey guys .<br class="">
<br class="">
as long as the video cache has been opened now
and in past proved its strength with http
other websites for video .<br class="">
<br class="">
((lets put youtube away now .))<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
why don’t we see development on it to support
the video contents of websites that support
http like daily motion and its sisters websites
.<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
and why don’t we use certificates once
development for youtube & Facebook ???<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
i saw the development of eleizer of caching
windows updates and it was great solution …..
why don’t we combine those 2 solution in 1
product ?<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
i think that continuing on the solution of
video cache is better than inventing solution
from scratch .<br class="">
<br class="">
thanks again squid users Guys<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
<br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">On Nov 20,
2016, at 1:10 AM, Eliezer Croitoru <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:eliezer@ngtech.co.il" class="">eliezer@ngtech.co.il</a>>
wrote:<br class="">
<br class="">
The cachevideos solution is not a fake but as
Amos mentioned it might not have been
updated\upgraded to match today state of
YouTube and google videos.<br class="">
I do not know a thing about this product but
they offer a trial period and they have a
forums which can be used to get more details.<br class="">
I believe they still have something really
good in their solution since it's not based on
StoreID but on other concepts.<br class="">
<br class="">
Eliezer<br class="">
<br class="">
----<br class="">
Eliezer Croitoru<br class="">
Linux System Administrator<br class="">
Mobile: +972-5-28704261<br class="">
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:eliezer@ngtech.co.il" class="">eliezer@ngtech.co.il</a><br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
-----Original Message-----<br class="">
From: Yuri Voinov [<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:yvoinov@gmail.com" class="">mailto:yvoinov@gmail.com</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 00:18<br class="">
To: Eliezer Croitoru <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:eliezer@ngtech.co.il" class="">eliezer@ngtech.co.il</a>>;
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org" class="">squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org</a><br class="">
Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos over
https?<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
20.11.2016 3:59, Eliezer Croitoru пишет:<br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">Yuri,<br class="">
<br class="">
I am not the most experienced in life and in
security but I can say it's possible and I
am not selling it....<br class="">
I released the windows update cacher which
works in enough places(just by seeing how
many downloaded it..).<br class="">
The first rule I have learned from my
mentors is that even if you know something
it might not fit to be in a form that the
general public should know about.<br class="">
I am looking for a link to CVE related
publication rules of thumb so I would be
able to understand better what should be
published and how.<br class="">
Any redirections are welcomed..<br class="">
<br class="">
A note:<br class="">
If you have the plain html of a json which
contains the next links you would be able to
predict couple things...<br class="">
</blockquote>
I know what are you talking about. I came to
this idea two years ago.<br class="">
Unfortunately, I had more important
priorities.<br class="">
But I'm not seen open source solutions uses
real YT internals yet and really works.<br class="">
<br class="">
Now I'm working on another squid's thing, but
plan to return to YT store-ID helper later.<br class="">
<br class="">
However, it is only the fact that the
"solutions" that are in the public domain, or
obsolete, or are worthless.<br class="">
<br class="">
And for some more money and asking. I would
understand if they really worked.
Unfortunately, Google does not idiots work.<br class="">
<br class="">
That's why I said that the development of the
Indian - fake.<br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">If you would
be able to catch every single fedora\redhat
sqlite db file and replace it with a
malicious sha256 data you would be able to
hack each of their clients machine when they
will be updated.<br class="">
If you believe you can coordinate such a
thing you are way above StoreID level of
understanding networking and Computer
Science.<br class="">
<br class="">
Cheers,<br class="">
Eliezer<br class="">
<br class="">
----<br class="">
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Linux System Administrator<br class="">
Mobile: +972-5-28704261<br class="">
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<br class="">
<br class="">
-----Original Message-----<br class="">
From: Yuri Voinov [<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:yvoinov@gmail.com" class="">mailto:yvoinov@gmail.com</a>]<br class="">
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 23:08<br class="">
To: Eliezer Croitoru <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:eliezer@ngtech.co.il" class="">eliezer@ngtech.co.il</a>>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org" class="">squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org</a><br class="">
Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos
over https?<br class="">
<br class="">
I do not want to waste my and your time and
discuss this issue. I know what I know, I
have seriously studied this issue. None of
those who are really able to cache Youtube -
not only on desktops but also on mobile
devices - all without exception - is no
solution in the form of open source or blob
will not offer free. This is big money. As
for Google, and for those who use it.
Therefore, I suggest better acquainted with
the way Youtube counteracts caching and
close useless discussion.<br class="">
<br class="">
I'm not going to shake the air and talk
about what I do not and can not be. If you
have a solution - really works, and for
absolutely any type of client (Android and
iPhone) - show evidence or let's stop
blah-blah-blah. I mean, if you really were a
solution - you'd sold it for money. But you
do not have it, isn't it?<br class="">
<br class="">
Personally, I do not want anything. This is
not the solution I'm looking for.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
<br class="">
For myself, I found a workaround; what I
know - I have stated in the wiki. If someone
else wants to spend a year or two for new
investigations - welcome.<br class="">
<br class="">
20.11.2016 2:45, Eliezer Croitoru пишет:<br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">Yuri,<br class="">
<br class="">
Let say I can cache youtube videos, what
would I get for this?<br class="">
I mean, what would anyone get from this?<br class="">
Let say I will give you a blob that will
work, will you try it? Or<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
would you want only an open source
solution?<br class="">
<br class="">
Eliezer<br class="">
<br class="">
----<br class="">
Eliezer Croitoru
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://ngtech.co.il/lmgtfy/"><http://ngtech.co.il/lmgtfy/></a> Linux
System<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
Administrator<br class="">
Mobile: +972-5-28704261<br class="">
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:eliezer@ngtech.co.il">eliezer@ngtech.co.il</a><br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
From: squid-users
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:squid-users-bounces@lists.squid-cache.org">mailto:squid-users-bounces@lists.squid-cache.org</a>]<br class="">
On Behalf Of Yuri Voinov<br class="">
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 17:54<br class="">
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org">squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org</a><br class="">
Subject: Re: [squid-users] caching videos
over https?<br class="">
<br class="">
HTTPS is not a problem, if not a problem
to install the proxy<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
certificate to the clients.<br class="">
The problem in combating caching YT by
Google.<br class="">
<br class="">
19.11.2016 21:41, Yuri Voinov пишет:<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
19.11.2016 21:35, Amos Jeffries пишет:<br class="">
19.11.2016 20:56, Bakhtiyor Homidov пишет:<br class="">
thanks, yuri,<br class="">
<br class="">
just found <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://cachevideos.com/">https://cachevideos.com/</a>, what
do you think about this?<br class="">
<br class="">
On 20/11/2016 4:17 a.m., Yuri Voinov
wrote:<br class="">
This is fake.<br class="">
<br class="">
Only for strange definitions of "fake".<br class="">
<br class="">
It is simply an old helper from before
YouTube became all-HTTPS. It<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
should still work okay for any of the
video sites that are still<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
using HTTP.<br class="">
YT uses cache-preventing scheme for videos
relatively long time<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
(after they finished use Flash videos).
So, no one - excluding Google<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
itself<br class="">
- can cache it now. Especially for mobile
devices. I've spent last<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
two years to learn this. So, anyone who
talk he can cache YT is lies.<br class="">
<br class="">
As I explain here why:<br class="">
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples/DynamicContent/YouTube/Dis">http://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples/DynamicContent/YouTube/Dis</a><br class="">
c<br class="">
ussion<br class="">
<br class="">
All another videos - well, this is a bit
difficult - but possible to cache.<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
If you look at the features list it
clearly says:<br class="">
"No support for HTTPS (secure HTTP)
caching."<br class="">
HTTPS itself in most cases can't be easy
cached by vanilla squid.<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
Amos<br class="">
<br class="">
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cook them.<br class="">
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